# Talk:Biological computation

## Import from "biological mathematics"

This article is a copy of the previous article biological mathematics. The new title is chosen as being more specific to the actual content of this article.

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## Biological mathematics is a misnomer

Mathematics has application to biology, and machines for computation based upon biology may exist, but to state that the "exploration and exploitation" of biological systems is itself *mathematics* is an error. Mathematics is a conceptual construct independent of its applications in principle, although of course, applications can stimulate mathematical creativity. John R. Brews 15:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

GH Hardy paraphrases Gauss: "if mathematics is the queen of the sciences, then the theory of numbers is, because of its extreme uselessness, the queen of mathematics" *A Mathematician's Apology*, p. 120 John R. Brews 16:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

- I have reworded this article to avoid using mathematics as a sub-discipline of biology on the basis that any
*application*of mathematics to a physical system is established by the study of that system, and is not a branch of mathematics*per se*. Likewise, the*performance*of mathematical algorithms using an organism or a computer is not mathematics*per se*, although the formal devising of the algorithm is such. John R. Brews 16:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

## Article should be renamed

I am still unhappy with the term "biological mathematics" which in itself uses "mathematics" as the noun being limited by "biological". In fact, I do not find that the term "biological mathematics" has much currency. The title should be changed to "biological computation". John R. Brews 16:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

This search on "biological mathematics" turns up 4,310 results, while this search on "biological computation" turns up 46,800 results. John R. Brews 17:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

- Perhaps it's best to just merge it into mathematical biology. --Daniel Mietchen 17:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

- Daniel, this topic is certainly a subtopic of mathematical biology, but it probably deserves its own article. I've suggested that
*biological computation*pretty much covers everything described in the references. John R. Brews 18:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

- Daniel, this topic is certainly a subtopic of mathematical biology, but it probably deserves its own article. I've suggested that

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